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Comment by Oralei on March 7, 2012 at 5:24pm
Thank you for the additional information.I wonder if the second seal would have been placed on the back of the painting? At some point in time, tthis painting has been re-lined.
Comment by Oralei on March 7, 2012 at 11:31am
Comment by Oralei on March 7, 2012 at 11:17am

I will start to do a little more research on stork and Hague. Thanks

Comment by Oralei on March 7, 2012 at 11:10am

Hi wja.Hugers,

Thank you for taking a look at my painting. That would be interesting to link it to the Hague. The stork did cross our mind but our research was taking us another direction. I believe the research our group did on this work of art has shown this to be a crane. There was about a twenty page forum discussion about this artwork and the seal. However, when members left the site so did their comments, so there are only about six pages now. Perhaps you'd find it interesting to read.

The following is a post tht was made concerning the seal. 'Reply by Daniel Craanen on June 1, 2009 at 6:59pm
 I posted my family's coat of arms on ...

    Here it is:

    A bit of information:

    I've got my family tree at home (well currently a historian has it). Our family dates back to 1450 or around that date.

    On that family tree it gives the coat of arms as it was on the seal of the Schout of Amersfoort in the 17th century (Schout is a combination betwen major and leader of police in that time. Amersfoort was a major trade city). This man is one of my ancestors.

    The Crane is indeed holding a rock to prevent it from falling asleep as said in the article.

    My family has been dutch ever since the first occurrance around 1450 (NOTE: DUTCH. NOT DEUTSCH. I'm from the netherlands, not germany (many people make this mistake ^^)) I'm also not Scottish as the man said at page 4 if I remember correctly. He was right about Craanen being a Dutch surname, however I and my historian friend think it may be derrived from Crane, which existed in Scotland as early as 1200. not sure about england.

    The family crest is here in black and white, but originally the colour of the crane is silver and the shield itself is azure blue. the wavy things around the helmet (no idea what they are in english) are also silver and azure blue, the crane on top is again silver.

    The only differences I can see are that the raised legs are bend slightly differently from each other and the crane on the seal has something to stand on, whereas mine has not. the helmet appears to be exactly the same though, judging by shape.

    The language on the back is without doubt French indeed.

    Hope this helps.

Reply by Daniel Craanen on June 1, 2009 at 7:19pm
    As I couldnt edit my other post anymore: note that on the Krohn family also have a crest that matches my description (colour scheme). (I found this after posting). They claim their name in 1300 was Von Cranich which may have lead to Craanen.

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