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Comment by Craig Phillips / B & C Emporium on June 14, 2014 at 2:57pm

A C Williams cast iron lion bank? in old red paint all that I see are in gold paint

Craig

Comment by vicki hufstetler on February 11, 2014 at 8:49pm

ahh! I see! Thanks very much Randy, that does help quite a bit. At least I will understand one bully dog from another!

They are all so cute! I like them to, I just don't have room for any more "Collections" :)

Comment by randy d norris on February 11, 2014 at 1:52pm

Left to right = "oldest to newest" or bottom to top + "oldest to newest"

Comment by randy d norris on February 11, 2014 at 1:49pm

Oldest on the top to newest on bottom (I believe)

Comment by randy d norris on February 11, 2014 at 1:46pm

Here are the new pictures, all shot under the same lighting, that will hopefully show what I was trying to explain earlier. A couple of additions to what I wanted to tell you first: 1) please look over the seams very carefully. They are extremely close and ALL the seams will have almost no gap that you can even put a single sheet of paper between even if the seams are not filled with paint. 2) The weight is also important. The earlier they are the heavier they are but will rarely exceed 76 ounces even with full paint. (paint will add 5-6 ounces) The later they are (closer to WWII and less availability to raw iron) the lighter they become. As an example, My "newest" one weighs in at 65 ounces with full paint. My "earliest one weighs in at a little over 75 ounces with full paint and the ones in-between weigh in between 70-75 ounces with most coming in at 72-73 ounces with full paint. Most reproductions will exceed these weights by quite a bit. 3) the actual dimensions are consistent. They are ALL 6 1/8" tall (top of folded ear) x 8 3/4". reproductions tend to be slightly smaller.

   I am adding the new pictures to the comment above   

Comment by randy d norris on February 11, 2014 at 12:33am

 I will try to take some better pictures tomorrow when I have better light or at least shoot them under the same light so that the subtle differences can be seen more clearly.

Comment by randy d norris on February 11, 2014 at 12:24am

   Vicki, Thank you for your kind comments on my collection. It's nice to have someone who can appreciate what I think are beautiful items.

   You asked me how I evaluate my cast iron English Bulldog banks so I'll give you what I look for, but first let me state that I'm not an expert but at this point I do believe I may be on the right path.

   First, The English bulldog banks of this style are ALWAYS three (3) pieces (a left, right and belly piece) held together with one (1) flat head straight screw.

   Second, The quality of the casting is of the highest quality. It will be a very smooth exterior (whether painted or not) with NO noticeable "pebbling" or "sandy" on the finish. The coin slot position will always be on the back directly above the screw and NEVER on the head.

   The paint is a little bit tougher, depending on when they were produced. I have found 3 distinct styles but they ALL were airbrushed and their painters were artists or at minimum they painted enough of them that they turned out a very consistent high quality product. Let me be a little more specific about what I mean by the three styles I have found.

   The first style (what I believe to be the oldest) Had a primer coat that was brushed on and was pretty heavy. It seems to be designed to fill in any gaps in the pieces (of which there is very little) and it also covers the screw entirely. Under very close inspection you can see the "brush strokes" under the poly-chrome paint. The paint itself is airbrushed so there are no sharp lines between the different colors. and it will very muted colors for the collar and usually has a a soft rose color inside the jowls and maybe a bit of that same color above the teeth. The eyes of all I have seen are completely black with no iris color.

   The second style, and what I have found to be the most common, seem to lack the heavily brushed primer coat. I can not see brush strokes so they either use a less thick primer or made the switch to spraying the primer coat also. the pattern of the colors seems to be more standardized and again it is airbrushed with No hard edges. The collars are almost never painted that I have seen. AND the eyes, can't forget the eyes, are beautiful. The iris of the eye is a brownish/gold with a black pupil and they are beautiful and almost human.

   Third, and what I believe to be the latest have the prettiest faces of them all. The muzzles are darkened, the teeth are more pronounced And the eyes, who can forget the eyes, are riveting. The iris can be orangy with black pupils. Sounds strange but looks beautiful. Again collar is not painted and the rose color seems to have disappeared from the jowls but the rose color in the mouth, above the teeth, is replaced with a pinker color.

   I'll put in some head shots to try and show the progression as I see them.

Comment by randy d norris on February 10, 2014 at 3:41pm

and finally a newly acquired Elephant Cast iron Doorstop from Creations Co. in Original "bronze" paint. As I stated before this company only existed for one year (1930) and was over, so this is a rather rare item and I feel very lucky to own 2 of them is in original paint and wonderful condition.

Comment by randy d norris on February 10, 2014 at 3:35pm

I have this "Crystal Bank" made of Cast iron and a thick glass. It was produced by Arcade Mfg. Co. in the late 1800's- early 1900's. The paint is all original and 90+% complete in gold and the Glass does have a crack but does not hurt display or usage of this unique item.

Comment by randy d norris on February 10, 2014 at 3:03pm

Another very cool old Original Cast iron Bank of "Mutt and Jeff" (Bud Fisher comic characters) made by A. C. Williams between 1912-1931. It has all original paint and very fine casting with great detail.

 

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