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I'd like to find the origin of this vessel. Although it has a break in the bowl and a chip on the lid I think it might be older than anything I've ever found or got the chance to hold. Almost looks like a Dragon Slayer slaying the Dragon ? Any input would be appreciated and Have Only a Great Day...

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It's crazy as I have this out in other areas. It's a stumper...

The debossed indented 'pattern' does not appear detailed enough to be representative of anything identifiable.  I think 'seeing' something being depicted in that is little more than the human mind's ability to recognise patterns in chaos.

It certainly could be that the pattern is indeed representative of something specific, however, I cannot see it from these photos.

As for dating the item, are there any identifiable maker marks anywhere, in, on or underneath the item?

Thanks Michael,Your right as I can't either and that's why I'd thought that it was maybe from a time that perhaps hadn't had enough civilization happening yet and after Much time schooling myself on pottery and so forth or at least more on the subject that the closest I can get to anything close to information is on Joman Pottery, From the pinching and the poke marks. And after I really looked closer I do definitely see a resemblance to another piece I seen of the actual Joman awkwardly enough. But Thank you . I've contacted some folks on the subject and am waiting for a response. Most likely tomorrow. Thanks again.

It is marked. I will get that out for you to see it.

You didn't show the bottom which is the most important part. It doesn't look very old to me. Stoneware with a white glaze interior and unglazed earth tone exterior with random incising was not uncommon for mid-century and later studio potters. Here's someone making similar work still: http://www.studiopottery.co.uk/images/Ian/Steele_(-2011)/4110

Jeff ,  thank you for your comment as after 100 views you and Michael were only with the responses. The bottom has a piece of material of some sorts I believe for better control over no more breaks and their is a mark on the bottom side which looks like a small mark which resembles the face of Joman. I myself couldn't possibly think a vessel like this could pop up in here in Kingman, Az. but we do  live in a world of odd happenings and not much surprises anymore .  But if I could ask , do you know of a mark on the piece you've been nice enough to post ? I'm going to further  read on  the link you sent and Thank You again and have only a Great Night...

Studio pottery often has felt or other material glued to the bottom so it won't mess up the shelf it is sitting on. Without seeing a picture I assume that's what you're describing. It is necessary to pull that off in order to properly look for any marks. You can always glue it back on once you've examined it. Studio potters either put marks on the bottom, a stamp on the bottom side (which might be what you're describing but who knows since you haven't posted a picture), or they left it unsigned.

Studio pottery was made in many home and small pottery workshops all over the US and all over the world. Not surprising to be in Kingman, Az; maybe made there in someone's basement, or it could be from anywhere in the world. Can't tell without better pictures.

Look at Jomon (not Joman) pottery. How many do you see with lids, how many lids have finials (knobs), how many have glaze? I didn't see any. https://www.google.com/search?q=jomon+pottery&client=firefox-b-...

I believe your pot was made during the 20th Century by an amateur potter experimenting with different ideas. The white, shiny interior of your vessel is done with a "glaze", it seals the finished clay and waterproofs it, making it fit to eat or drink the contents. 

Before the first firing your vessel received  an "under glaze" to prep the clay for firing.

The color was added to the "slip" which consists of thinned potter's clay + colorants and then fired.

There are molds available for potters where  they fill the mold with liquid clay which then hardens. It is called "green" pottery until such time as it's fired. It's fragile. Lids are uncommon to old or ancient pots as they require precise measurements to assure proper fit.


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