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This is in higher res and sharpened-search for similar shaped marks from 1895-1909. Given that the Indian statue is there and they look like 1930-1940s Americans, it's likely a US brand.

Lloyd asked:

"Isn't the Deusenberg car company different than the Packard car company ?

Did we ever answer that question?  The chart I posted was the Production Summary of the years for the different Deusenberg models, which is what I thought he (you, Lloyd) was referring to?  If it is no longer relevant, that's fine, too.

I just had an epiphany this am, If you look at Model T like car, the steering wheel is on the right hand side of the car, not the left (which from what I read was normal for american made cars).

Does that help anyone identify this car ?

Thanks aagain

Seems like most horseless carriages steered from the right .

I guess I read the wrong article.

Yes, this was before it was revealed that these ARE Deuseys-I thought they could be Packards as well.

The horseless carriage (HC) has carriage lamps, but a round steering wheel. It looks much newer and I'd guess it was added at a later date. Most HC were steered with an upright shaft with a single handle. The wooden wagon wheels have white rubber tires. There were and are kits that can be bought for HC.

Sorry, I'm lost on this one.

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