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Meissen Porcelain – Three Centuries of Elegance

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Meissen Porcelain – Three Centuries of Elegance

Meissen porcelain, from tableware and vases to figures, clocks, and centerpieces from the 18th through the 20th century.

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Nicholas Zumbulyadis has worked for thirty years as a research scientist at the Eastman Kodak Research Laboratories until his retirement in 2005. Nick is also a collector of and dealer in European ceramics, primarily Meissen and related German porcelain. Since his retirement he is active as an independent scholar in ceramic history. His studies of the development of ceramics from the twin perspectives of the chemistry and art historian have led to numerous lectures, a publication in the American Ceramic Circle Journal, and an art reference book, “Meissen’s Blue and White Porcelain” published by Schiffer in 2006.

Discussion Forum

Meissen pattern for this set? 3 Replies

Started by Jim J.. Last reply by kathy park Dec 4, 2013.

Meissen Questions... 2 Replies

Started by Heidi Kessler. Last reply by Heidi Kessler Feb 22, 2013.

Is Twitter an effective tool for collectors/dealers? 3 Replies

Started by Nicholas Zumbulyadis. Last reply by Nicholas Zumbulyadis Jan 23, 2013.

Could these possibly be Seuter Workshop products and/or related to the Meissen Golden Chinese 5 Replies

Started by Margo Giroux. Last reply by Margo Giroux Nov 27, 2012.

My 2nd Meissen 4 Replies

Started by Oralei. Last reply by Oralei Jun 24, 2012.

My first Meissen! 6 Replies

Started by Oralei. Last reply by Oralei Nov 18, 2011.

Real Meissen? 2 Replies

Started by Lauren Golembiewski. Last reply by Lauren Golembiewski Aug 8, 2011.

Real Meissen or a fake? 4 Replies

Started by Lillian Dunbar. Last reply by Lillian Dunbar Jul 22, 2011.

Plates remind me of Meissen, but no mark 2 Replies

Started by KC Vitt. Last reply by KC Vitt Feb 27, 2011.

Has anyone seen a Meissen mark like this? 3 Replies

Started by Oralei. Last reply by Oralei Sep 8, 2010.

Meissen marks, imitations and fakes 8 Replies

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Is this old plate early Meissen

Started by tortoise cat Apr 13, 2010.

What is selling well? 3 Replies

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Meissen artists 2 Replies

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Comment by vicki hufstetler on October 30, 2009 at 11:56am
Terrific Idea! Thank you!
Comment by Nicholas Zumbulyadis on October 29, 2009 at 4:44pm
Meissen You Can Use

From what I can see current economic conditions did limited damage to the high end of the antiques market including porcelain and ceramics. The lower end including popular 19th century Meissen tableware patterns, however, did not fare as well. So here is an opportunity to own elegant things that you can also use. You can quickly assemble authentic yet relatively inexpensive coffee, breakfast, luncheon and dessert sets with prestigious brand names.

Besides the ever-popular Meissen Blue Onion pattern there are other standard Meissen patterns like “Purple Indian Flowers,” “Strewn Flowers,” “German Flowers and Insect,” and many others. These patterns were produced in a standardized fashion throughout the 19th and 20th centuries and in fact are still in production today. So one can gradually accumulate pieces and put together inexpensive, uniform sets that can be used on special occasions without much apprehension. Pick a pattern and watch the auctions and sales. Who knows how long this opportunity will last.
Comment by Anatoly Vishevsky on October 5, 2009 at 4:02pm
Thanks, I will check them out...
Comment by Nicholas Zumbulyadis on October 5, 2009 at 3:24pm
Well, I have bought from Metz but you must always explicitly ask for a condition report, otherwise you might be unpleasantly surprised. Bergmann is very good in terms of client services and accurate descriptions.
Comment by Anatoly Vishevsky on October 5, 2009 at 3:03pm
Thank you. Well, I guess this happens with beginning collectors... I will just have to sell it.
Also, I saw that were talking here about Metz Auction house. Do you recommend them? I know they sell a lot of Meissen. I also signed up for Bonhams. Anyone else important? I believe Sothebys and Cristies only have occasional sales now?
Comment by Nicholas Zumbulyadis on October 5, 2009 at 12:37pm
Unfortunately the enamel colors are burned into the glaze in a second firing and cannot be removed. After overglaze painting, porcelain undergoes a third firing step around 800 degrees Celsius. This is not as complicated as it sounds and is routinely done by amateur porcelain painters. After all, most of Limoges was painted by amateur outsiders (unless it is marked with the factory decorating mark usualy in red overglaze, cf. for example Mary Frank Gaston's book on Limoges porcelain)
Comment by Anatoly Vishevsky on October 5, 2009 at 9:36am
Another question: would it make sense to ask a professional to take off the coloring on the blue and white plate? It is over glaze after all? Do such things work?
Comment by Nicholas Zumbulyadis on October 5, 2009 at 9:31am
Right again! Ferner would indeed be 1740-ish.
Comment by Anatoly Vishevsky on October 5, 2009 at 9:20am
Thanks you! I need your book! :-) I have a couple of pieces by Augsburg Hausmalerei about 1725, but not Ferner yet. Ferner would be later - 1740s, right?
Thanks again.
Comment by Nicholas Zumbulyadis on October 5, 2009 at 6:58am
Yes, the object itself is indeed 18th century Meissen, ca. 1750, underglaze blue in the Blue Onion pattern. The overdecoration (the overglaze colors) is unfortunately considerably later, done outside the manufactory, could be as recent as the 20th century and is detrimental to the value of the piece. There was overdecoration in the 18th century that is rare and desirable like that of the Augsburg Hausmaler or from the workshop of F. J. Ferner. This piece falls unfortunately in the category of "clobbered." I discuss this in my book on "Meissen's Blue and White Porcelain."
 

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