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Meissen Porcelain – Three Centuries of Elegance

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Meissen Porcelain – Three Centuries of Elegance

Meissen porcelain, from tableware and vases to figures, clocks, and centerpieces from the 18th through the 20th century.

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Meet Your Moderator-Nicholas Zumbulyadis

About the Moderator:
Nicholas Zumbulyadis has worked for thirty years as a research scientist at the Eastman Kodak Research Laboratories until his retirement in 2005. Nick is also a collector of and dealer in European ceramics, primarily Meissen and related German porcelain. Since his retirement he is active as an independent scholar in ceramic history. His studies of the development of ceramics from the twin perspectives of the chemistry and art historian have led to numerous lectures, a publication in the American Ceramic Circle Journal, and an art reference book, “Meissen’s Blue and White Porcelain” published by Schiffer in 2006.

Discussion Forum

Meissen pattern for this set? 3 Replies

Started by Jim J.. Last reply by kathy park Dec 4, 2013.

Meissen Questions... 2 Replies

Started by Heidi Kessler. Last reply by Heidi Kessler Feb 22, 2013.

Is Twitter an effective tool for collectors/dealers? 3 Replies

Started by Nicholas Zumbulyadis. Last reply by Nicholas Zumbulyadis Jan 23, 2013.

Could these possibly be Seuter Workshop products and/or related to the Meissen Golden Chinese 5 Replies

Started by Margo Giroux. Last reply by Margo Giroux Nov 27, 2012.

My 2nd Meissen 4 Replies

Started by Oralei. Last reply by Oralei Jun 24, 2012.

My first Meissen! 6 Replies

Started by Oralei. Last reply by Oralei Nov 18, 2011.

Real Meissen? 2 Replies

Started by Lauren Golembiewski. Last reply by Lauren Golembiewski Aug 8, 2011.

Real Meissen or a fake? 4 Replies

Started by Lillian Dunbar. Last reply by Lillian Dunbar Jul 22, 2011.

Plates remind me of Meissen, but no mark 2 Replies

Started by KC Vitt. Last reply by KC Vitt Feb 27, 2011.

Has anyone seen a Meissen mark like this? 3 Replies

Started by Oralei. Last reply by Oralei Sep 8, 2010.

Meissen marks, imitations and fakes 8 Replies

Started by Oralei. Last reply by Oralei Sep 8, 2010.

Is this old plate early Meissen

Started by tortoise cat Apr 13, 2010.

What is selling well? 3 Replies

Started by julia wilkinson. Last reply by Oralei Jan 28, 2010.

Meissen artists 2 Replies

Started by Oralei. Last reply by Oralei Jan 28, 2010.

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Comment by Katie Lane on February 27, 2011 at 12:26am
There's a web site now where you can identify Meissen figures from photo.  Details about individual pieces define the markings and model numbers.  http://www.meissencollector.com
Comment by vicki hufstetler on July 17, 2010 at 1:22pm
WOW J, that is so upsetting! I am so sorry to hear of this "disaster"! I often bid online from a local auction co. because I can simply go pick up my items - hense saving myself from those very high shipping costs. However - When you saw the listing were the items well pictured? Did they show you any marks at all? If I saw a suspect listing such as that, I think I would have called the co. This may be a word to the wise - if your not certain as to quality - etc. Call first before you bid. A similar thing happened to me several years ago - It was a Meissen Soup Tureen - I called and asked "are there any scratch marks on the base at all"? I got a "no, just the crossed swords". I pick up the item - guess what? Scratch marks - just as I suspected and I let them know of my unhappiness! I didn't take possesion of the item - and I'm sure they pawned it off on some other, poor, unsuspecting person as a first rate piece, when it was CLEARLY a second. Thanks for sharing your experience with us. I wish you success in reclaiming this terrible expense. What a shame!
Comment by vicki hufstetler on July 9, 2010 at 10:37am
And there you go Erika! I told you Mr. Nicolas is amazing! :)
Comment by Nicholas Zumbulyadis on July 9, 2010 at 7:33am
Hi Erika,
Yes I am finally again in town. Let me quickly comment on your piece. It is definitely Meissen from the second half of the 19th century, definitely before 1924 when the mark changed. It is a covered jar probably a small covered sugar bowl with applied flowers, and volute feet. It is very decorative as a stand alone piece. There are also cups and saucers and pots and cream jugs with applied flowers so potentially one could assemble a set. More on collecting Meissen later.
Comment by Erika Hackett on July 8, 2010 at 9:59pm
Hi Vicki - thanks so much for your answer. And yes, the work appears to be very fine...very clear, no colors where they shouldn't be, etc. Even the butterflies and bees are very clear.
The friend who gave it to me grew up near the factory in Germany before WWII, and her family had a good amount of Meissen before the war - so I do think she would know the difference. I don't care so much about the value as the story...like what time period was it made, any history on the design, etc. It was a very special gift and Meissen china is very close to her heart...so I think she would be tickled to know I found out something about it. For some reason - maybe because I love her and it was a gift from the heart - I am feeling inspired to start a collection. Every time I look at it I will think of her! :)
I will try to post some better pics...I have a digital camera somewhere (those pics were taken with my blackberry). Thank you again for both your answer and interest. There is so much to learn....I appreciate people like yourself who are willing to take the time to help newbies!
Erika
Comment by vicki hufstetler on July 8, 2010 at 9:17pm
Hi Erica, You have posted in the correct group, no worries there. The way in which to tell Meissen from other makers is a difficult question, and it requires a bit of patience and skill on all of our parts. I have been fooled myself once - and that was enough for me - lol! To start with, true Meissen is of the highest quality - when you look at a piece you must consider the artistic nature of the maker - how skilled is/was he/she? are the colors very fine, shape perfectly made etc. The Meissen mark is one of the most faked in the antique world. Your piece does look geniune, however the pics are not really clear, so this makes it difficult. I see some fineness to the florals, and to the added decoration - is this all hand painted? and is it very exceptional? The mark looks to be correct. If Mr. Nicolas is about - he is an expert and I'm sure could tell you the pattern and even the time period in which it was made. It is lovely! I would like to see better pics if you can manage it, just for the sake of seeing such a pretty piece! Hope this helps a bit.
Comment by Erika Hackett on July 8, 2010 at 8:29pm
I am sorry if I didn't post this in the correct place. Please let me know if I need to move it....thanks!
Erika
Comment by Erika Hackett on July 8, 2010 at 8:28pm

Hello - I am hoping someone can give me some information about a piece of Meissen china a friend gave me recently. I know nothing about porcelain (or antiques in general) but this gift is very special to me, as is the person who gave it to me.
(The pictures are awful but it is the best I can do at this time.)

I would also appreciate information anyone can provide as to how to begin collecting Meissen china. How does one avoid fakes or find out if the prices asked are fair? I know that is a big question so if there are resources on this site that I can access, please let me know. I don't want everyone to have to repeat themselves endlessly.
Thanks so much!
Erika
Comment by Nicholas Zumbulyadis on February 5, 2010 at 4:41pm
The link to the newspaper slide show about Meissen is

http://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/2010-02/bg-meissen-porzel...
Comment by Nicholas Zumbulyadis on February 5, 2010 at 4:39pm
The German newspaper Die Zeit has a slide show about the Meissen Manufactory in its on-line edition. Go the link below and use the arrows to navigate, it is worthwhile even if you cannot read German.

 

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